Subj : big cities AT> I actually prefer "real" history. I would suggest Pattons' JW> As I said, this one really happened. It _is_ "real" history. My comment was in response to your statement that many people prefer SF to history. I've read a little SF, but greatly prefer history, or science. JW> roll.:-) Reading at the small unit tactics level would probably be JW> more useful...if you have a small unit... :-) If it ever happens that you, and a small group, are in a survival situation, small unit tactics would be pretty handy to know, and would be no less important than food-growing skills. Subj : big cities JW> I have read a lot of military history, including stuff about JW>Patton, and I believe that I do have a copy of Guderian's _Panzer JW>Leader_ here. However, while interesting, much of this has little JW>relevance to the survivalist. I have no troops to move or armor to JW>roll.:-) Reading at the small unit tactics level would probably be JW>more useful...if you have a small unit... :-) Just remember, those who would try to prey on the prepared, or marginally so, will most likely be travelling as gangs. What's a gang but a small unit? Maybe we won't be able to field a small unit, but you can bet we'll be facing them.