Msg # 8504 Date: 24 May 94 06:18:00 From: Bob Johnstone To: Jeff Subj: RE: QUITTING SMOKING ____________________________________________________________________________ >BJ> SOLUTION: Borrow $100, explain that by not smoking you >BJ> will save more than $1 per day, and will pay it back at $30 >BJ> a month. It would probably be quite easy to get a loan >BJ> anywhere for $100 when it is going to be paid in 4 months. > >BJ> If you smoke a pack or more a day, what you save makes it >BJ> easy to pay. > > $100 to stop smoking is rediculous. I know somedoy that charged $40 > to help people stop smoking. He was so successful that he Guarnteed > it. But then he didn't have to worry about money, because he was a > multimillinaire. Early in his life he was an inventor. He even had > patents on some drugs. He was a brilant man who accomplished alot > in his lifetime. > Hypnosis works great, but accupunture also works and is chepper than > $100 a day. My sister and my father did accupunture and it worked > for them. My mom is the only I know who stopped on her own. I don't > smoke, so I don't have to worry about it. It appears that you misread my message, I said you _save_ more then $1 per day when you quit smoking, and it will pay for the $100 for the patches. Contrary to your opinion, $100 is not rediculous, it cost the average person over $5000 per year to smoke, including damage to clothing, additional cleaning costs, et al. So to any _smoker_ that cost is extremely reasonable. In addition, I have been a Professional Hypnotist for over 44 years and an amatuer prior to that time. I have taught seminars in Hypnosis internationally, with over 500 professionals attending many of them. There are many _guaranteeing_ to have others quit smoking for $35 or $40 and I have had to work with HUNDREDS of their clients after they failed, to help them quit. Guaranteeing that a person will quit smoking in ONE session, is lying to the individual, it just does not happen. These con men advertise in such a manner that "if you follow their directions you will quit in one session." Then, if you dont quit, they say you did not follow their directions, so you do not get a refund. During the past 40 years I have held positions as President, Vice Pres, Treas, Secretary, in several National Professional Hypnotist organisations, and worked in the clinic of Reg Sheldrick who was the President of the Hypnotist Examining Council (In fact he started it.) IF ANYONE ever became a MultiMillionaire helping others to quit smoking, I certainly would know of him. There is ONLY one MultiMillionaire who is a Hypnotist, and that is Barry Konikov, who sells hypnosis tapes thru the Bookstores, etc. He sells over 200,000 tapes weekly. His tapes are effective with about 30% of those who try them, very poor quality in my opinion. BUT, he is a marketing genius, with an MA in Advertising, and that is why he became a millionaire, not because he is such a good hypnotist. It takes 12 weeks to break any habit, with or without hypnosis, and it is 100 times more difficult without, which is why so many fail to quite smoking without help. In addition when you quit smoking, you are NOT just working to break ONE habit, but 100 or more of them. The hypnotist who works to break that habit as only ONE habit, will ultimately fail, the individual will generally be back smoking again in one, two, three, weeks or more generally less than six months. It is a habit to smoke when talking on the telephone. It is a different habit to smoke when drinking coffee. It is still another habit to smoke when doing other things and many individuals will have up to 250 different habits. Hypnosis is NOT like waving a "magic wand" and it will not stop any individual from smoking in ONE session unless they could have quite anyway - without - using hypnosis. The most well implanted hypnotic suggestions last only THREE DAYS, this has been proven over and over and over. The effect of ONE or 50 suggestions, can not possibly over come the effect of MILLIONS OF SUGGESTIONS which the individual has given themselves. Each time a person lights up or takes a puff off a cigarette, that is a powerful suggestion that they will continue smoking. TWO SESSIONS per week, for 6-12 weeks depending upon the individual will get them to the point where they can handle the balance of the problems on their own. By having two sessions, as the suggestions begin to wear off, then they are re-enforced. Keep re-enforcing them for 6-8 weeks and you create a NEW HABIT CYCLE that of being a non-smoker. Those who advertise that they can help someone quit in ONE session are doing the field of hypnotherapy a VAST disservice. They tell a person, if it does not work, that means you cant be hypnotized or it does not work for you, and then if that person needs hypnosis for therapy in the future, they wont believe that it could help them. Hypnosis works with EVERYONE, if the person working with you is COMPETENT. If it fails to help you, it was not you who failed. That is like going to a mechanic, and having him tell you "Your car is resistive so I could not fix it." If a mechanic told you that, you would think they were stupid and go to another mechanic. A therapist is simply a teacher or a mechanic who knows a lot about the brain and how it works. If one cant help you they may specialize in an area that is not appropriate for your problems. Keep looking until you find one who specializes in what you wish to deal with, and you will find what one cant do, another therapist can help you deal with. If a Hypnotherapist cant help you, THEY lack the knowledge necessary. There are hypnotists who learned to use hypnosis in a few weekends, that are not competent to do more than stage hypnosis. There are others who took a course at UCLA, who also have a Masters in Psychology, others who have a Ph.D. in Psychology, such individuals can accomplish what appears to be a miracle. You get what you pay for, if your head is only worth $40 try one who says you can "stop smoking" in ONE session, but also remember, CAN quit smoking AND you WILL quit smoking have different meanings. If your head is worth MORE than $40 to you, find a hypnotist or therapist who is honest with you, and will not promise results in one session, but allows a reasonable time for changes to take place. The same applies to tapes, Barry Konikov guarantees his tapes will help you in 30 days, if they dont you can return them. But when I talked with him he says few bother to return them because by the time they realize they are not going to help, the 30 days has past. I know that the best results from tapes will come from using them for OVER 90 days, so I put NO LIMIT on my Guarantee. If a person is NOT satisfied with my tapes, even if they use them for a YEAR OR MORE and then decide they wish to return them, they get a full refund. It gives them a FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME to try them out, and as long as they wish to return them if they are not satisfied. There is no time limit. --- FLAME v1.0 * Origin: For PTSD or Emotions & Physical HELP 714-525-1706 (1:10/25) PATH: 10/25 103/501 121 3615/50 138/103 1 352/3 410 03